Saturday, 29 December 2018
BY THEIR WORKS SHALL YE KNOW THEM...
Remember the above from a while back? A fellow by the name of PATRICK FORD, totally misrepresenting what my post he links to is about, is still at it, in his distorting, disingenuous way. For a start, no one has, to my knowledge, ever 'insisted' (or even suggested) that fans of old MARVEL comicbooks 'need' to appreciate Ditko's post-Marvel work. So that's a 'straw man' argument for a start. Also, he himself wasn't necessarily even being thought of in my original post, so why he wants to include himself under the umbrella of my prior observations is something known only to him. However, observe his latest distortion:
He falsely claims that my original post was saying that "people who like the breadth of a creator's work are a 'worshipping society'." I never once said any such thing - never even used the word 'breadth' - that's him ascribing his own ideas to me. What I was suggesting was that when someone elevates a creator's solo work (in this case STEVE DITKO) over that which he has produced with one particular collaborator (in this case STAN LEE), and thinks that the way to extol that creator is to continually attack the work and person of his collaborator, then that seems to suggest an 'appreciation' of the creator in question that borders on an obsessive, almost 'religious' worship - even when it involves rejecting some of the creator's collaborative work because of a seemingly irrational hatred of the collaborator. Let's read an example of that attitude for ourselves, again by the aforementioned Mr. Ford.
So he hates Stan Lee so much that he won't even read some of the work collaboratively produced with Steve Ditko? Yet he criticises those who aren't particular fans of other work by Ditko, produced with a different collaborator, even though their lack of appreciation may be more down to indifference than because of a burning hatred of the collaborator. One thing I'm certain of - Stan never ruined the work of either Steve or Jack (though he may have occasionally 'tweaked' it in a different direction than either man intended), and to state that he did suggests an overwhelming, obsessional regard for the 'undiluted' work of Ditko and Kirby.
Very much like a worshipping cult I'd say, considering those that share his view are in the minority.
And let me remind people on the SNYDER/DITKO site that only the few vocal individuals who constantly strive to diminish Stan Lee's work and character, and who constantly misrepresent what others say in order to do so, are the subjects of this post, not the entire membership.
Posted by Kid at Saturday, December 29, 2018