Sometime later, in the mid-'90s, I ordered some books from Leo and took the opportunity to ask him about the annual, and he generously took the time to reply and explain what had happened with it. Here's Leo in his own words from his November '95 response: "Yes, the third... book was published, in September 1978, simultaneously with... 'A Very Funny Business'. But because writing the autobiography took 4 months of my time in the summer of 1977, I was that much late in starting... the third Willy the Kid book, and as a result... it missed the annual distribution set-up, and was published as a 'posh' book with a wrap-around loose cover, at £2.50 (by contrast with the first and second Willy books, which were £1 each)
" - what's more, the print orders for Willy Books 1 and 2 were in both cases circa around 150,000, and they were sold along with the other annuals (Beano annual and whatnot), but the print order for the third Willy book, being a 'posh' book, had a print order of 10,000, and was tucked away in bookshops, instead of being sold alongside annuals."
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So there you have it from Leo himself - the book was published - and don't let any dealer ever tell you different. Bax then went on to say the following: "So, alas, alas... lots of dedicated readers couldn't find it, and in many cases have spent the rest of their lives looking for it (funnily enough, the day before I received your order, I'd had an order for prints and books from a young man in Catford in London, with a covering letter telling me jubilantly that only the previous week, he had finally found a copy of the elusive Willy the Kid Book 3 in a junk shop in Wales.) So never give up hope."
I have the first two books which I bought as a kid in Australia. I too waited in vain for any more books to appear. Your website is the first time I ever saw the third book. I kind of feel like I'm the only kid in Australia who ever heard of the books, judging from my friends recollections. I was lucky to stumble upon them I guess.
ReplyDeleteAs they only printed around 150,000 each of the first two books , it would be interesting to know exactly how many reached Australia. And, with only 10,000 of book 3 printed, whether any of them were ever sent 'down under'. Keep your two books safe - they're genuine collectors' items.
ReplyDeleteI've got a Willy the Kid badge!
ReplyDeleteI don't - but I've got the 3rd book. That's more than most people.
ReplyDelete...i have all 3 the badge and the inserts !!!
ReplyDeleteI'm sending someone 'round to steal them from you.
ReplyDeleteHi I've got only the Willy the kids first annual never new there was moreout there my children love reading it now it's one of those comic books that will never get out of date all childrenof all ages love it
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Yup - it's a classic, sure enough.
ReplyDeleteI only have the second one, but I've read the first two!
ReplyDeleteHere's my review of the second book:
http://www.wackycomics.com/2012/06/willy-kid-book-2.html
Now, how about a look inside that third one, eh? :)
I have all three too. And scanned them in carefully to PDF format. If you would like a copy feel free to email me
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Thanks for the kind offer, SM, but as I have the books, I don't really need a PDF. Perhaps other Criv-ites might take you up on your offer. thanks again.
ReplyDeleteI have a mint copy , i was a bit too young in 78/79 to get humour , I am possibly looking to sell it if anyone would be interested , it has dust sleeve intact
ReplyDeleteHow much are you asking for it, AD? If no Criv-ites are interested (this post is an old one and perhaps not many people will see your comment), the best thing to do would be to sell it on eBay.
ReplyDeleteI had it on ebay 4/5 months ago and bids went to 300 mid auction , I panicked and cancelled auction early , i have just been recently sacked after 10 years , and looking to use funds to start up my own comic/geeky stuff store on ebay . Any advice would be great , I am from Beano town and had family working at DC thompsons
ReplyDeleteI have no idea what it is worth , i have images i can let you see , Not much info on internet as to its possible value
ReplyDeleteI paid around £30 for mine a few years back, but the value will vary according to condition and how much someone wants it. It's doubtless sold for less than I paid for mine, and also more than that. I'd say put it back on eBay at a starting price of £25 to £30. Hope that helps.
ReplyDeleteFrom the few things i've seen on internet people have paid 3 figure sums for it kid
ReplyDeleteLike I said, "it's doubtless sold for less than I paid for mine, and also MORE than that". I've just checked eBay and noticed you currently have it on sale at £300. However, there's another on sale at £84.44. Much as I like Leo Baxendale's work, I'd be surprised if either of them sell at those asking prices. Yours is the highest by a wide margin that I've ever seen anyone ask for it, but you may strike it lucky if someone is desperate enough for it.
ReplyDeleteEdit: Just spotted another two, one at £125, the other at £169.02. It's worth remembering that just because some sellers are asking high prices for the book, it doesn't necessarily reflect its actual worth or mean that people will buy them at those prices.
I've owned two of the first annual as a kid, it made such an impression on me and of course I dont have either and have been looking for it again to no avail.
ReplyDeleteKeep checking eBay, S - they come up on regular occasions.
ReplyDeleteMy friend won a competition at school to create a monster which would appear in a Willy the Kid book.
ReplyDeleteShe never saw it in print and has always wondered about it. She vaguely remembers it being called BearyElephanto, or something like that. Does that ring any bells with you?
Entry details of the competition were printed in the first Willy book in 1976, and was also open to members of ABC and EMI Cinemas junior clubs. Perhaps some schools were also included. There were 50 winners who got £2 each for their drawing, ten of which were printed in the back of the second Willy book issued in 1977. Your pal's idea doesn't appear to have been included, nor were the other 39 winning entries.
ReplyDeleteOK. Thanks very much for your help anyway. At least she can stop wondering now.
ReplyDeleteNo bother, glad if I helped.
ReplyDeleteLoved willie the kid when I was well "a kid" had no2 for years until local kids burned my flat down while I was at work as lost front door key and they decided to have an early bonfire in my living room and that was the last time I saw it.
ReplyDeleteYeah, the books were very funny. Leo Baxendale published a 'best of' volume (called 'The Worst Of...' if I recall correctly) several years back when he was still with us, but I wish someone would publish an Omnibus volume containing all three books. Rebellion would be ideal if they could acquire the rights.
ReplyDeleteHas any other 'eagle-eyed' comic fan with too much time on their hands noticed that between Willy the Kid Book One and Book Two - he has moved house? To another house in Armpit Road, presumably.
ReplyDeleteCan't remember if I ever noticed that or not, MH. If I did, I'd forgotten. I wonder what house he's living in in Book 3? Must take a look one day.
ReplyDeleteSo there I was, strolling through Barrow Market one day in 1977 (?) with my mam, and passing a stall selling annuals etc I noticed something a bit eye-catchingly non- Fleetway-esque. A bit punky. On inspection of the cover which showed a lad running from a Stickygloo Monster and complaining that he couldn't escape even though he was running - which impressed my eleven year old mind because of it's truth. I had to have it. I congratulated myself on getting Mr B's little gags like 'mustard' with the mouse straining etc which you would not get in the normal Fleetway comics.
ReplyDeleteAt some point in The 80s I gave all my annuals ( Shiver & Shakes, Monster Funs etc) to the younger generation. As you do. Including that Willy Book Two.
Bet you're kicking yourself now, eh? My first two Willy books are the original ones I bought at the time, though as mentioned in the post, it took me over 30 years to get the 3rd one. The amount of time and money I've spent over the last 40 years replacing stuff I gave away or threw out is immense. Wish I'd kept everything now. That's why I hesitate to get rid of anything these days, just in case I eventually miss it and want it back again a few years down the line.
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