tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3740495193314269367.post5932576294433525503..comments2024-03-28T16:55:49.068+00:00Comments on CRIVENS! COMICS & STUFF!: TV21 - ADVENTURE IN THE 20th CENTURY (MARVEL UNIVERSE)...Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3740495193314269367.post-55764982969018872762020-05-12T12:33:10.930+01:002020-05-12T12:33:10.930+01:00Oops! That should be 'more', not 'moor...Oops! That should be 'more', not 'moor', and 're-sized', not 'r-esized' in my first reply to McScotty (who is now showing as 'Unknown' for some unknown reason. (See what I did there?)Kidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07224781868125924337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3740495193314269367.post-85784107233647512942015-09-07T22:33:57.768+01:002015-09-07T22:33:57.768+01:00Unfortunately, JP, Countdown only counted down to ...Unfortunately, JP, Countdown only counted down to another comic (TV Action), so it certainly never had the success of TV21. Shame - it showed a lot of promise to begin with.Kidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07224781868125924337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3740495193314269367.post-6360991276631641242015-09-07T22:28:29.560+01:002015-09-07T22:28:29.560+01:00Thanks for this excellent post, Kid, ( especially ...Thanks for this excellent post, Kid, ( especially as it was me who requested it!)<br />These certainly were Topsy-Turvy times. TV21 wasn't "TV21"any more, - Countdown/TV Action had become " TV21".<br />Whereas THIS TV21 had become a sixth Power Comic!<br />Confused?John Pitthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08035300858247327343noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3740495193314269367.post-24196736552215368722015-07-06T12:43:24.467+01:002015-07-06T12:43:24.467+01:00Ah, but even under Dez, they sometimes got the pan...Ah, but even under Dez, they sometimes got the panels mixed up, alas. At least they kept the original lettering. I remember buying a few issues of the Surfer in Blackpool in 1973 or '74, McScotty - # 12 was among them. It's always been one of my favourites, too. I even remembered previously reading the story (or at least a part of it) in TV21 a few years before.<br /><br />Update: The issues I got, direct from the spinner-rack, were #10, 11, 12, 13 & 14.Kidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07224781868125924337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3740495193314269367.post-65597639111047574042015-07-06T12:17:37.411+01:002015-07-06T12:17:37.411+01:00That issue of the Surfer where he battles the Abom...That issue of the Surfer where he battles the Abomination, is still one of my all time favourite comic. I always thought that this version of TV21 was very similar in layout to Dez Skinn's later versions of "Marvel Comic" etc (although Dez did it so much better in the editing) "Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11166190927603182073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3740495193314269367.post-2509908529805410772015-07-06T12:11:45.216+01:002015-07-06T12:11:45.216+01:00I have to admit that my feelings are mixed, McScot...I have to admit that my feelings are mixed, McScotty. On the one hand, the first time I ever remember seeing the Silver Surfer was when he battled the Abomination - and that was in the pages of TV21. Therefore, I have a nostalgic attachment to all versions of the comic, but from a more objective standpoint, I tend to agree with you. (And yet...and yet...) However, the 'Marvel effect' was certainly diluted to an extent, I'd say. Strange that both our first encounters with Norrin were that Abomination tale, eh?<br /><br />Update: Actually, that's not true. I'd first seen the Surfer in FF #57 a while before. Funny that I should forget that.Kidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07224781868125924337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3740495193314269367.post-16272731144762197372015-07-06T11:47:58.880+01:002015-07-06T11:47:58.880+01:00My Dad may have bought the odd issue of the origin...My Dad may have bought the odd issue of the original TV21 series formy brother or myself but I have no memory of it from that time at all, so this was the first version of TV21 I ever read and the comic was a few months into its run by the time I got around to reading it. I recall thinking just how "tidy" and a bit bland the comic looked in its layout despite the new addition of the MARVEL characters. I was particularly keen on reading this at the time as by 1970 I was well and truly a US comic fans plus I had not long picked up a US Silver Surfer comic (issue 12) in a newsagents (Swans) in Cambuslang and was blown away by so when I read that the Surfer was in this new TV21 comic I had to have it, I can still recall how disappointed I was in the comic as the 2 page stories just didn't work for US adaptions which stuck out like a sore thumb as not being British (and they weren't exactly edited well) - but the art looked good. I recently picked up an issue of this comic and it still looked bland (to me at least) not a great version of a once great comic.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11166190927603182073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3740495193314269367.post-83184068910748885022015-07-06T11:43:05.656+01:002015-07-06T11:43:05.656+01:00I suppose they're not too bad when compared to...I suppose they're not too bad when compared to other strips in the comic, Andrew, but when you compare them to the way they were originally published, the dilution of the 'Marvel look' is moor obvious. Look at that first Surfer page for example. SS's first appearance is a back shot. At least when Odhams r-esized the strips, they usually incorporated the splash pages as slightly larger panels.Kidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07224781868125924337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3740495193314269367.post-39579934600289892562015-07-06T11:31:13.891+01:002015-07-06T11:31:13.891+01:00Thanks very much for posting these, Kid. I was com...Thanks very much for posting these, Kid. I was completely unaware of them at the time. In November 1970 I was just short of my 13th birthday, and thought of TV21 as a "little kid's comic" (I don't think I'd bought an issue since 1967). And my schoolfriends (who were less enlightened than me) thought of ALL comics as "kid's stuff". So there's no way I would have been aware of it. The only way I would have been is if they'd put the Marvel characters on the cover - it's such a shame they didn't.<br /><br />The changes to the panel layouts and lettering give them a very conservative "British" look - although the overall effect isn't as bad as I'd imagined from your description yesterday.Andrew Mayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17073306343984931484noreply@blogger.com