tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3740495193314269367.post5695547267685415492..comments2024-03-28T16:55:49.068+00:00Comments on CRIVENS! COMICS & STUFF!: KLASSIC KIRBY KOMIC KOVERS - SUPERMAN'S PAL JIMMY OLSEN...Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3740495193314269367.post-59643715361926692862021-12-08T00:23:15.178+00:002021-12-08T00:23:15.178+00:00I've got the actual comics and have read them ...I've got the actual comics and have read them several times. And no policy was ever made to denigrate Kirby - that's just nonsense. Marvel sometimes had John Romita redraw Peter Parker and Mary Jane in Kirby mags, and Kirby sometimes redrew panels by Don Heck or parts of Ditko's Spidey - it was industry practice at the time. Try looking at the actual comics instead of deifying Kirby.<br /><br />DC wouldn't have had to redraw some of Kirby's faces had he drawn them the way he was asked to. Or are you saying it was beyond him? If you look at some of Kirby's pencilled Superman faces, he made Supes look like he had a combover or was wearing a bad wig. He switched the side of Superman's parting from panel to panel sometimes, so he obviously couldn't be bothered to be consistent.<br /><br />And most editors are on a power trip, but they don't have to have faces redrawn in order to cater to it. They would've insisted that Jack drew Supes to look like Supes if they wanted to exercise some power. They obviously tippy-toed around him. Kidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07224781868125924337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3740495193314269367.post-5196098477343994572021-12-07T23:26:59.985+00:002021-12-07T23:26:59.985+00:00Kirby’s Superman pencils look great! There was no ...Kirby’s Superman pencils look great! There was no reason to mess with them except for somebody in editorial bring on a power trip. Hoosier Xhttp://mushtown.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3740495193314269367.post-21748958331758132932021-12-07T23:25:19.530+00:002021-12-07T23:25:19.530+00:00They were perfectly fine with Werner Roth’s Superm...They were perfectly fine with Werner Roth’s Superman faces on the Lois Lane series for months after Kirby started. Then I guess somebody noticed that the policy they suddenly made to denigrate Kirby wasn’t consistent so they started mucking with Roth’s faces too. <br /><br />You don’t believe me? Try looking at the actual comics instead of just repeating the talking points. Hoosier Xhttp://mushtown.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3740495193314269367.post-31964798741183531212015-08-28T23:46:32.028+01:002015-08-28T23:46:32.028+01:00Having seen reproductions of the pencils, Phil, I ...Having seen reproductions of the pencils, Phil, I didn't mind it at all. They did the same thing (if I recall correctly) with Werner Roth's Superman faces in Lois Lane.Kidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07224781868125924337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3740495193314269367.post-19933178283353608162015-08-28T23:31:17.770+01:002015-08-28T23:31:17.770+01:00I just noticed the ex - pal on the cover.
Also one...I just noticed the ex - pal on the cover.<br />Also one thing which really annoyed me was how they redrew Superman's face with a Kirby body. It was more distracting than using Kirby's own face.Philnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3740495193314269367.post-63813881318635692132015-08-28T22:52:31.805+01:002015-08-28T22:52:31.805+01:00You don't seriously imagine I'm unaware yo...You don't seriously imagine I'm unaware you're at the wind-up, do you? However, Superman's leg is under the wheel. It's quite obvious that, even allowing for foreshortening, Superman is too big in comparison to the circumference of the wheel and the rest of the bike and it's passengers. I'm right and you're wrong and you've shot your last bolt. Now...hiss off!Kidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07224781868125924337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3740495193314269367.post-15262016275218234962015-08-28T20:07:55.243+01:002015-08-28T20:07:55.243+01:00The wheel isn't touching him.Its knocked him t...The wheel isn't touching him.Its knocked him toward the foreground. The flashbang effect they added on confuses it.Hissing Sidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3740495193314269367.post-20854294668223745302015-08-28T16:46:21.052+01:002015-08-28T16:46:21.052+01:00He'd have been 98, Phil. Hard to believe he di...He'd have been 98, Phil. Hard to believe he died in 1994. Kidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07224781868125924337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3740495193314269367.post-15361944904238398542015-08-28T16:43:34.388+01:002015-08-28T16:43:34.388+01:00Happy birthday Kirby Happy birthday Kirby Philnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3740495193314269367.post-55325135415964227252015-08-28T15:16:03.894+01:002015-08-28T15:16:03.894+01:00Okay, I'll give you enough rope. He's stil...Okay, I'll give you enough rope. He's still too big, foreground or not. The front wheel is making contact with Supe's body (or it's supposed to be) - the wheel - and everything else on the bike, come to that, is simply too small for where it's meant to be.Kidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07224781868125924337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3740495193314269367.post-42009978262570737052015-08-28T15:02:16.350+01:002015-08-28T15:02:16.350+01:00Superman isn't too big. He's in the foregr...Superman isn't too big. He's in the foreground! Hissing Sidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3740495193314269367.post-91826659366874848442015-08-28T13:45:18.428+01:002015-08-28T13:45:18.428+01:00If Kirby had stayed at Marvel, I think you'd b...If Kirby had stayed at Marvel, I think you'd be (mostly) right, CJ. Maybe not Kamandi 'though, as that only came about because Marvel beat DC to the rights of Planet of the Apes.Kidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07224781868125924337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3740495193314269367.post-23107883435628625982015-08-28T13:31:30.785+01:002015-08-28T13:31:30.785+01:00If Kirby had stayed at Marvel then maybe things li...If Kirby had stayed at Marvel then maybe things like the New Gods and Kamandi would have been part of my childhood memories which they're not :(Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com