tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3740495193314269367.post4129859786624898730..comments2024-03-28T18:40:59.101+00:00Comments on CRIVENS! COMICS & STUFF!: DOOMSDAY CLOCK - THE MOORE THE MERRIER...? (UPDATED) Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3740495193314269367.post-85870471304943121852017-11-22T10:49:13.353+00:002017-11-22T10:49:13.353+00:00And Swamp Thing was constructed as a scientist who...And Swamp Thing was constructed as a scientist who'd been transformed by a bio-restorative formula into a shambling, muck-encrusted mockery of a man. Then along came Alan Moore who changed him into a Plant-Thing, with an echo of the human consciousness of a man who had died. (A bit like my 'Die to Live' post.) It's the way of such things that new creators very often add to the creations and intent of others. If not, Superman would still only be able to leap an eighth of a mile, etc. It seems that it's only Mr. Moore who considers his work sacrosanct.<br /><br />******<br /><br />And you've said what you said so masterfully, RJ, that there's not much I can add, except to say that I agree with you. I very much doubt that Stevenson, Carroll, etc., would be happy with what Mr. Moore did to their creations, so why he thinks he's entitled to complain when he thinks the same thing is being/has been done to his work (and believe that it shouldn't be) is a bit of a mystery. Kidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07224781868125924337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3740495193314269367.post-14739684541610832452017-11-22T07:35:33.056+00:002017-11-22T07:35:33.056+00:00Very interesting. I pretty much agree with what yo...Very interesting. I pretty much agree with what you say about the blind spot some creators have when they decry the injustice of not being given proper credit (or remuneration) for the characters they created for say DC or Marvel when they themselves appeared to gleefully write new adventures for characters created long before they were ever born. I don't want to overstate it, get what you can from publishers who are now making a mint on the imaginations of real talents, but don't mope about it so much. Comics has traditionally been a field in which creators got screwed, paid like piece work employees in what historically were akin if not actual sweatshops --their imaginations be damned. Alan Moore as you point out especially made his bones bringing fresh perspectives to vintage characters he never created, only revised, sometimes masterfully. The Watchmen are a DC product, and while Moore and Gibbons did it with gusto, the characters would not exist without the previous contributions of Steve Ditko, Joe Gill, Pat Boyette, Jim Aparo, and Pete Morisi among others. 'Nuff said!<br /><br />Rip OffRip Jaggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09936426877024852134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3740495193314269367.post-41789121440435303572017-11-22T05:11:54.728+00:002017-11-22T05:11:54.728+00:00Well, i can kind of understand what he means about...Well, i can kind of understand what he means about the new stories with the characters. It's why i have no interest in reading them. The Watchmen was constructed as a self-contained, self-refencing, circular structure that was designed to complete itself. Adding to the structure actually diminishes the whole.<br /><br />That said - yeah. Kind of a tit.<br />But i'll give him being a principled tit, giving up the money with the credit. <br /><br /><i>(Where'd you get that picture of me for the top, though? Oh - wait. Didn't see how much was still on top.)</i>-3-https://www.blogger.com/profile/18201804552651989442noreply@blogger.com