tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3740495193314269367.post2774098489622958256..comments2024-03-28T18:40:59.101+00:00Comments on CRIVENS! COMICS & STUFF!: LOOPY LAPSES IN LOGIC DEPT - "THE MAD PHARAOH!" (MAD? HE'S FURIOUS!)Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3740495193314269367.post-90276172291475895112019-08-20T20:04:09.615+01:002019-08-20T20:04:09.615+01:00Well, it's only (nearly) plagiarism if it'...Well, it's only (nearly) plagiarism if it's a deliberate imitation, T47, and Robot Archie looked a bit different in his early days to how he came to look later. And it's unlikely (though not impossible) that Jack Kirby, who designed Iron Man's costume, had ever seen Archie. Besides, the premise is different - one is a robot and one's a guy who wears an iron suit to keep him alive. If you put the first version of Archie next to the first version of Iron Man, any visual similarities aren't that pronounced. Kidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07224781868125924337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3740495193314269367.post-71063872769728548932019-08-20T19:19:14.949+01:002019-08-20T19:19:14.949+01:00I thought Robot Archie would be first, which means...I thought Robot Archie would be first, which means the early Iron Man costume is nearly plagiarism.Terranova47https://www.blogger.com/profile/12417687209201322523noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3740495193314269367.post-10661411659434420402019-08-20T10:51:19.841+01:002019-08-20T10:51:19.841+01:00The Terrible Tinkerer story was more likely to be ...The Terrible Tinkerer story was more likely to be Stan's idea, DS, as he had more input into the early Spidey tales before Steve took over. Aliens didn't fit with Steve's idea of what Spider-Man should be about, going by his later pronouncements.<br /><br />I'd read a version of the Avengers genesis before, but I think the one I read said that the title was already planned, but merely rescheduled when Bill Everett fell behind on Daredevil. Not sure which version is more accurate. Kidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07224781868125924337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3740495193314269367.post-14042226972805063682019-08-20T09:54:21.640+01:002019-08-20T09:54:21.640+01:00It's interesting to look at some of the early ...It's interesting to look at some of the early Marvel stories before Stan had figured out what kind of tone they wanted the different comics to have. For instance, Daredevil #2 has DD flying a space rocket, Dr Strange appears to be drawn as an oriental man in his first appearance, Spider-Man faces an alien in a flying saucer in the second issue of his own series before it settles down into a (mostly) street-level crime series with villains more like Dick Tracy baddies than word-conquering despots.<br /><br />Even the Fantastic Four take a few issues to settle into their familiar appearances, and the early Avengers comics, to me, feel strangely directionless (although this may be explained by the the fact that the Avengers was apparently cobbled together at short-notice to cover for the delayed launch of Daredevil, according to this story https://www.cbr.com/avengers-owe-their-existence-to-a-missed-daredevil-deadline/).Dave Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10562199843047738071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3740495193314269367.post-24339588193388201792019-08-20T07:46:30.213+01:002019-08-20T07:46:30.213+01:00Robot Archie first appeared in a strip called The ...Robot Archie first appeared in a strip called The Jungle Robot in Lion comic, cover-dated February 23rd 1952, so Archie precedes Tony, T47. The first several strips are on the blog.Kidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07224781868125924337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3740495193314269367.post-18571060753541887272019-08-20T04:42:07.743+01:002019-08-20T04:42:07.743+01:00So which came first, this Iron Man comic or Robot ...So which came first, this Iron Man comic or Robot Archie?Terranova47https://www.blogger.com/profile/12417687209201322523noreply@blogger.com